

Here is the Rise Up Radio interview podcast below.In ‘Killing Bono’ Ben Barnes (Dorian Gray, The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian) and Robert Sheehan (Cherrybomb, The Misfits) are brothers Neil and Ivan McCormick who set up a band in Dublin in the late 70’s.

So do it for the right reason, and then if success comes it’ll be great, and if it doesn’t come, you’ll still feel good about it.” But if you doing it all to trying to succeed, and it’s all about trying to succeed, you will look back on it and it will look like a failure. “If you are doing the best you can and enjoying it while you’re doing it, and you don’t succeed, you look back and say, ‘well that was fun’. I recognize when I’m writing, I get into a state of flow…getting everything rolling the same direction, and it’s only really when I was bumped off the direction that I wanted to go in, and found myself going in the direction that my talents naturally took me and applying myself to that, that everything flowed!” “Life was telling me to go in a different direction, and it was only when I got pushed in a different direction, that it was a direction of ‘flow’. It doesn’t actually reflect on the inner quality of the person doing the losing. If two football teams play a game, one of them loses. We act as if losing is a disaster, but it’s not. You learn from that and you still had the experience of doing that…. The losing isn’t a terrible thing – it’s just failing to achieve something. “I thought I had something valuable to say about losing. I thought to myself, ‘There’s an idea for a book in that’, but it was nearly 10 years later that I wrote that book…” “I said to Bono, ‘The problem with knowing you is that you lived my life.’ And he said, ‘That’s because I’m your doppelgänger, and if you want your life back, you’ll have to kill me’. It’s something that ultimately has to come from inside of you.” Your level of happiness with your life and your set of circumstances. The answer to all of those things ultimately lie inside of you. There’s a lot of people who are trapped in an idea of themselves that they formed when they were you know, 17….a lot of people that were destroyed and crushed by fame, probably as many people that have crushed by succeeding at whatever their dream was, as have been crushed by failing to succeed at whatever the dream was. “There’s a lot of miserable pop stars all over the place, I should know because I’ve interviewed plenty of them. (There are so many, you’ll have to listen to get them all.: ) Some great nuggets from our conversation: It also proves that going against “the flow” of your life can not only be frustrating, but lead to unhappiness, but going with the flow can make all the difference. The success of his book and the film proves that something great can come out of what be perceived as a “failure”, and how that can actually lead to unexpected success.

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